matthew arcus

Testing for Triangularity

A company I used to work for had a standard interview problem of writing a short function that would take 3 numbers (usually assumed to be integers) and determine if they formed a valid triangle. There was much discussion about the best/fastest/clearest/most elegant way of doing this, but I don’t remember the topic of what to do if the numbers were floating point coming up.

Curiously, being interviewed myself at another company not long ago I was asked this very question and wasn’t quite sure what the best thing to do was – for integers, my preferred solution is to sort the 3 numbers as a >= b >= c, then we have a triangle just when c > 0 and a < b+c (or
a-b < c if we are worried about overflow). What about if they are floating point numbers? Clearly if b >> c, then b+c might lose precision, so, for example, we might have c > 0 and b = a, so it’s valid, but if b+c = b, then our test fails.

We could try the same trick as for integers, testing for a-b < c – subtracting the two largest should minimize the rounding error; this seems plausible, but can we be sure we won’t get it wrong?

An earlier post looked at the sequence of integers:

0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 18 20 22 24 26 28 30
32 36 40 44 48 52 56 60
64 72 80 88 96 104 112 120

which are really just thinly disguised (non-negative) floating point numbers. An important feature, obvious here and easy to prove of “real” FP numbers, is that, apart from the first two rows, each row is the double of the row above it, therefore, 2n is representable exactly iff n is. Furthermore, it’s pretty obvious that if a and b are representable, with a/2 <= b <= a, then a-b is representable (and if a and b are numbers in the first two rows, then all differences are representable, so we don’t need to worry about them).

Now let’s return to our triangle: we have a >= b >= c > 0 and clearly a,b,c must be representable. If all the numbers are in the first two rows, then all operations are exact and we get the right answer. Otherwise, a is even: first, consider the case b >= a/2, as above, this implies that a-b is representable and the comparison with c must be exact, so our test is correct. Otherwise, if b < a/2, then since c <= b, c + b <= 2b < a, so we don’t have a triangle, and, assuming that rounding is monotonic (ie. x <= y => round(x) <= round(y), or equivalently, x < y => round(x) <= round(y)), our check works out correct too:

b < a/2, so b+c < a (exact) so c < a-b (exact) so c = round(c) <= round(a-b)


As usual for this blog, we are merely paddling at the shore of a much deeper sea. For much more on triangles, floating point approximations etc, see Kahan’s paper:

(or indeed anything else by the great man: